John Manger

Heathcote Arms

Performance

Section Played Won Drawn Lost
Total 300 128 81 91
League 2023–2024 11 7 1 3
League 2022–2023 14 6 6 2
League 2021–2022 20 4 8 8
League 2019–2020 15 8 6 1
League 2018–2019 17 11 0 6
League 2017–2018 19 4 4 11
Summer Cups 2017 6 4 1 1
League 2016–2017 22 11 7 4
Summer Cups 2016 13 0 4 9
League 2015–2016 20 11 5 4
Summer Cups 2015 7 3 2 2
League 2014–2015 14 4 5 5
Summer Cups 2014 12 6 0 6
League 2013–2014 20 10 8 2
Summer Cups 2013 11 4 2 5
League 2012–2013 21 6 8 7
League Cups 2012–2013 5 2 3 0
Summer Cups 2012 10 5 1 4
League 2011–2012 17 9 2 6
League Cups 2011–2012 3 1 1 1
Summer Cups 2011 12 8 3 1
League 2010–2011 9 3 4 2
League Cups 2010–2011 2 1 0 1

Game History

21 Mar 2024 W 1504 Fancourt, Les 10 Manger, John 1656
05 Mar 2024 B 1656 Manger, John 10 Datoo, Noor 1532
21 Feb 2024 W 1356 Butler, Rene 01 Manger, John 1656
06 Feb 2024 W 1656 Manger, John 10 Slater, Brian L 1524
25 Jan 2024 W 1634 Watkinson, Phil 10 Manger, John 1656
09 Jan 2024 W 1656 Manger, John 10 Fancourt, Les 1504
14 Dec 2023 W 1309 Roberts, Neil 01 Manger, John 1663
28 Nov 2023 W 1663 Manger, John 01 Steel, Martin 1626
16 Nov 2023 W 1404 Street, Alex 01 Manger, John 1663
31 Oct 2023 B 1663 Manger, John ½½ Butler, Rene 1294
18 Oct 2023 B 1556 Slater, Brian L 01 Manger, John 1663
25 Apr 2023 B 1633 Manger, John 10 Collings, Peter 1500
18 Apr 2023 W 1633 Manger, John 10 Cope, Shaun 1786
05 Apr 2023 W 1555 Slater, Brian L ½½ Manger, John 1633
09 Mar 2023 B 1529 Walker, John 01 Manger, John 1633
21 Feb 2023 B 1633 Manger, John 01 Vann, Richard 1843
15 Feb 2023 W 1698 Mikalajunas, Kajus ½½ Manger, John 1633
02 Feb 2023 B 1590 Emmerton, Steve ½½ Manger, John 1633
25 Jan 2023 W 1646 Garland, Michael (jnr) 01 Manger, John 1633
12 Jan 2023 W 1543 Milligan, Alex ½½ Manger, John 1633
24 Nov 2022 W 1590 Emmerton, Steve 01 Manger, John 1633
08 Nov 2022 W 1633 Manger, John ½½ Garland, Michael (snr) 1534
25 Oct 2022 W 1633 Manger, John 01 Mikalajunas, Kajus 1698
19 Oct 2022 B 1552 Fraser, Chris 01 Manger, John 1633
18 Oct 2022 W 1633 Manger, John ½½ Gowers, George 1487
26 Apr 2022 B 1705 Manger, John 10 Gray, Paul 1608
19 Apr 2022 B 1705 Manger, John ½½ Miller, James 1784
06 Apr 2022 B 1548 Jacquemard, Quentin ½½ Manger, John 1705
31 Mar 2022 B 1756 Waterfield, Mark 10 Manger, John 1705
22 Mar 2022 B 1705 Manger, John 01 Penney, Oliver 1675
15 Mar 2022 B 1863 Salisbury, Michael ½½ Manger, John 1705
22 Feb 2022 B 1705 Manger, John ½½ Redding, Jon 1750
17 Feb 2022 W 1650 Tarwid, Julian 10 Manger, John 1705
10 Feb 2022 B 1584 Noyvert, Ben 01 Manger, John 1705
01 Feb 2022 B 1705 Manger, John 01 Galligan, Brian 2043
27 Jan 2022 B 1630 Connor, Matthew 10 Manger, John 1705
05 Jan 2022 W 1578 Hickman, Peter 10 Manger, John 1705
07 Dec 2021 W 1705 Manger, John ½½ Curran, David 1713
09 Nov 2021 W 1705 Manger, John 10 Slater, Brian L 1593
04 Nov 2021 B 1585 Hill, Cyril 10 Manger, John 1705
26 Oct 2021 W 1705 Manger, John ½½ Sandham, Mick 1653
21 Oct 2021 W 1375 Hill, Eddie 01 Manger, John 1705
19 Oct 2021 B 1705 Manger, John ½½ Mottram, Paul 1593
12 Oct 2021 W 1500 Pilley, Jack 10 Manger, John 1705
28 Sep 2021 W 1705 Manger, John ½½ Emmerton, Steve 1644
10 Mar 2020 W 129 Manger, John 10 Mottram, Paul 111
25 Feb 2020 W 104 Steel, Martin ½½ Manger, John 129
18 Feb 2020 W 129 Manger, John 10 Gamble, David 97
28 Jan 2020 W 129 Manger, John 10 Johnson, Andy 143
15 Jan 2020 W 117 Sandham, Mick 10 Manger, John 129
08 Jan 2020 B 98 Griffiths, Mike ½½ Manger, John 129
17 Dec 2019 W 129 Manger, John ½½ Hickman, Peter 106
28 Nov 2019 B 121 Vallabhdas, Jayesh ½½ Manger, John 129
19 Nov 2019 B 129 Manger, John 10 Reid, Patrick 131
06 Nov 2019 B 111 Gulab, Pankaj 01 Manger, John 129
05 Nov 2019 W 129 Manger, John ½½ Hayden, Lawrence 128
24 Oct 2019 W 97 Gamble, David 01 Manger, John 129
08 Oct 2019 B 129 Manger, John ½½ Brown, Mick 100
02 Oct 2019 W 109 Clark, Paul 01 Manger, John 129
26 Sep 2019 B 95 King, Robert 01 Manger, John 129
30 Apr 2019 B 130 Manger, John 01 Glover, John 117
02 Apr 2019 W 108 Gulab, Vijay 10 Manger, John 130
27 Mar 2019 W 118 Gist, Elizabeth 01 Manger, John 130
19 Mar 2019 B 130 Manger, John 10 Watson, Dan 108
05 Mar 2019 B 130 Manger, John 10 Jacquemard, Quentin 106
26 Feb 2019 B 130 Manger, John 10 Whitehouse, Guy 109
21 Feb 2019 B 89 Brown, Mick 01 Manger, John 130
31 Jan 2019 W 149 Clarke, Ian 10 Manger, John 130
24 Jan 2019 W 119 Worrow-Goodin, George 01 Manger, John 130
15 Jan 2019 W 130 Manger, John 10 Clark, Paul 95
04 Dec 2018 W 130 Manger, John 01 Gist, Elizabeth 118
20 Nov 2018 W 130 Manger, John 01 Thomson, John 152
08 Nov 2018 W 105 Mottram, Paul 01 Manger, John 130
23 Oct 2018 W 130 Manger, John 10 Gulab, Vijay 108
09 Oct 2018 B 130 Manger, John 10 Reynolds, David 122
04 Oct 2018 B 113 Oliver, John 01 Manger, John 130
19 Sep 2018 W 90 Matts, Stephen 10 Manger, John 130
01 May 2018 B 139 Manger, John ½½ Lichnovsky, Marian 100
19 Apr 2018 W 157 Smith, Stephen 10 Manger, John 139
10 Apr 2018 B 139 Manger, John 10 Kruitbosch, Gijs 128
03 Apr 2018 W 139 Manger, John 01 Gibson, Paul 132
27 Mar 2018 W 139 Manger, John 01 Farrall, David 168
13 Mar 2018 B 139 Manger, John ½½ Knight, Christopher 134
06 Mar 2018 B 139 Manger, John ½½ Dodds, Iain 150
18 Jan 2018 B 123 Gray, Paul 10 Manger, John 139
09 Jan 2018 W 139 Manger, John 01 Kufleitner, Manfred 140
02 Jan 2018 B 139 Manger, John 01 Dawkins, Stuart 119
14 Dec 2017 W 168 Harrison, Graham 10 Manger, John 139
06 Dec 2017 B 121 Adcock, Terry ½½ Manger, John 139
22 Nov 2017 B 134 Knight, Christopher 01 Manger, John 139
07 Nov 2017 W 139 Manger, John 01 Thomson, John 155
02 Nov 2017 W 181 Ward, Alan 10 Manger, John 139
24 Oct 2017 B 139 Manger, John 10 Suchak, Parin 133
12 Oct 2017 B 119 Wyld, Nick 01 Manger, John 139
10 Oct 2017 W 181 Naylor, John 10 Manger, John 139
03 Oct 2017 B 139 Manger, John 01 Henfrey, Robert 153
14 Sep 2017 W 106 Griffiths, Mike 01 Manger, John 127
14 Sep 2017 B 106 Griffiths, Mike 01 Manger, John 127
11 Jul 2017 W 127 Manger, John 01 Gibson, Paul 146
11 Jul 2017 B 127 Manger, John 10 Gibson, Paul 146
05 Jul 2017 B 119 Adcock, Terry 01 Manger, John 141
06 Jun 2017 W 141 Manger, John ½½ Ward, Glyn 143
02 May 2017 B 144 Manger, John ½½ Cope, Shaun 129
25 Apr 2017 W 144 Manger, John 10 Vann, Richard 177
13 Apr 2017 B 116 Walton, David 01 Manger, John 144
04 Apr 2017 B 144 Manger, John ½½ Hayden, Lawrence 127
14 Mar 2017 B 144 Manger, John 01 Suchak, Parin 135
07 Mar 2017 W 144 Manger, John 10 Esworthy, George 115
21 Feb 2017 B 144 Manger, John ½½ Adcock, Terry 127
02 Feb 2017 W 115 Eastlake, Charles 10 Manger, John 144
18 Jan 2017 W 117 Farquharson, Ian 10 Manger, John 144
12 Jan 2017 B 139 Gibson, Paul ½½ Manger, John 144
04 Jan 2017 B 99 Mottram, Paul 01 Manger, John 144
22 Dec 2016 W 127 Hayden, Lawrence ½½ Manger, John 144
13 Dec 2016 B 144 Manger, John 01 Clarke, Ian 140
01 Dec 2016 W 132 Newham, Jon 01 Manger, John 144
30 Nov 2016 B 85 Martin, Steve 01 Manger, John 144
24 Nov 2016 B 94 Williams, Richard 01 Manger, John 144
17 Nov 2016 B 125 Pettitt, David 01 Manger, John 144
02 Nov 2016 W 119 Hickman, Peter 01 Manger, John 144
25 Oct 2016 W 144 Manger, John 10 Walton, David 116
12 Oct 2016 W 133 Van Hoof, Alex 01 Manger, John 144
11 Oct 2016 B 144 Manger, John ½½ Chen, Daniel 108
05 Oct 2016 B 152 Billingham, John ½½ Manger, John 144
22 Sep 2016 W 123 Chalashkanov, Nikola ½½ Manger, John 133
22 Sep 2016 B 123 Chalashkanov, Nikola ½½ Manger, John 133
25 Aug 2016 W 134 Hayden, Lawrence ½½ Manger, John 133
25 Aug 2016 B 134 Hayden, Lawrence ½½ Manger, John 133
16 Aug 2016 W 133 Manger, John 01 Northage, Robert 150
16 Aug 2016 B 133 Manger, John 01 Northage, Robert 150
09 Aug 2016 W 158 Bingham, James 10 Manger, John 144
28 Jun 2016 W 152 Potter, Karl 10 Manger, John 133
28 Jun 2016 B 152 Potter, Karl 10 Manger, John 133
24 May 2016 W 133 Manger, John 01 Vann, Richard 160
24 May 2016 B 133 Manger, John 01 Vann, Richard 160
17 May 2016 W 133 Manger, John 01 Morley, Andrew 173
17 May 2016 B 133 Manger, John 01 Morley, Andrew 173
27 Apr 2016 B 147 Richards, Paul 01 Manger, John 140
26 Apr 2016 B 140 Manger, John ½½ Hamby, Stephen 138
21 Apr 2016 B 125 Hammond, Grant ½½ Manger, John 140
05 Apr 2016 W 140 Manger, John 10 Townsend, Arthur 119
24 Mar 2016 B 117 Eastlake, Charles 01 Manger, John 140
16 Mar 2016 B 120 Hickman, Peter 10 Manger, John 140
09 Mar 2016 B 120 Hickman, Peter 01 Manger, John 140
01 Mar 2016 W 108 Gulab, Vijay 10 Manger, John 140
18 Feb 2016 W 99 Griffiths, Mike 01 Manger, John 140
17 Feb 2016 B 118 Farquharson, Ian ½½ Manger, John 140
02 Feb 2016 B 140 Manger, John 01 Vaughan, Ben 112
20 Jan 2016 B 120 Hickman, Peter 01 Manger, John 140
12 Jan 2016 B 140 Manger, John 01 Richards, Paul 120
05 Jan 2016 B 140 Manger, John 10 Adcock, Terry 127
08 Dec 2015 B 140 Manger, John ½½ Pourmozafari, Ben 129
03 Dec 2015 B 119 Townsend, Arthur 01 Manger, John 140
17 Nov 2015 B 91 Agger, Reg 01 Manger, John 140
10 Nov 2015 B 140 Manger, John 10 Gulab, Vijay 108
03 Nov 2015 B 138 Hamby, Stephen ½½ Manger, John 140
27 Oct 2015 W 140 Manger, John 10 Armstrong, Victor 126
18 Aug 2015 W 92 Mundy, Rob 01 Manger, John 139
04 Aug 2015 W 135 Manger, John ½½ Hollingworth, Stuart 109
04 Aug 2015 B 135 Manger, John 10 Hollingworth, Stuart 109
16 Jun 2015 W 135 Manger, John 01 Adcock, Gregory 151
16 Jun 2015 B 135 Manger, John 01 Adcock, Gregory 151
28 May 2015 W 129 Walker, John 01 Manger, John 135
28 May 2015 B 129 Walker, John ½½ Manger, John 135
21 Apr 2015 B 132 Manger, John 01 Macauley, Glenn 139
03 Mar 2015 B 132 Manger, John 01 Farrall, David 150
24 Feb 2015 W 132 Manger, John 10 Pourmozafari, Ben 147
03 Feb 2015 B 132 Manger, John 01 Ward, Glyn 152
20 Jan 2015 W 135 Damodaran, Somanathan 10 Manger, John 132
08 Jan 2015 W 131 Chalashkanov, Nikola 01 Manger, John 132
06 Jan 2015 B 132 Manger, John ½½ Dodds, Iain 158
17 Dec 2014 B 100 Martin, Steve 01 Manger, John 132
09 Dec 2014 B 132 Manger, John ½½ Sandrovitch, David 144
25 Nov 2014 B 132 Manger, John ½½ Harrison, Graham 135
18 Nov 2014 W 132 Manger, John ½½ Tipper, Christopher 139
04 Nov 2014 W 132 Suchak, Parin 10 Manger, John 132
28 Oct 2014 B 132 Manger, John 10 Townsend, Arthur 134
14 Oct 2014 W 132 Manger, John ½½ Stone, Robert 128
26 Aug 2014 W 174 Colburn, Paul 10 Manger, John 139
26 Aug 2014 B 174 Colburn, Paul 10 Manger, John 139
22 Jul 2014 W 139 Manger, John 01 Deacon, Paul 157
22 Jul 2014 B 139 Manger, John 10 Deacon, Paul 157
17 Jul 2014 W 127 York, Russell 01 Manger, John 139
17 Jul 2014 B 127 York, Russell 01 Manger, John 139
01 Jul 2014 B 89 Mundy, Rob 01 Manger, John 141
28 May 2014 W 118 Adcock, Terry 01 Manger, John 139
28 May 2014 B 118 Adcock, Terry 10 Manger, John 139
22 May 2014 W 60 Brown, Thomas 10 Manger, John 141
13 May 2014 W 139 Manger, John 01 Eastlake, Charles 133
13 May 2014 B 139 Manger, John 10 Eastlake, Charles 133
29 Apr 2014 B 140 Manger, John 10 Mundy, Rob 86
09 Apr 2014 B 121 Adcock, Terry ½½ Manger, John 140
01 Apr 2014 B 140 Manger, John ½½ York, Russell 134
25 Mar 2014 W 140 Manger, John 10 Goldsmith, Rory 114
13 Mar 2014 W 102 King, Robert ½½ Manger, John 140
06 Mar 2014 B 125 Townsend, Ray 01 Manger, John 140
04 Mar 2014 B 140 Manger, John ½½ Wells, Jeremy 139
25 Feb 2014 B 140 Manger, John 01 Hill, Granville 114
18 Feb 2014 B 140 Manger, John 01 Okhai, Shabir 130
06 Feb 2014 B 136 Reynolds, David ½½ Manger, John 140
30 Jan 2014 B 109 Smith, Jason 01 Manger, John 140
22 Jan 2014 B 137 Busby, Michael 01 Manger, John 140
09 Jan 2014 B 134 York, Russell 01 Manger, John 140
05 Dec 2013 W 135 Van Stee, Rob ½½ Manger, John 140
28 Nov 2013 W 118 Slater, Brian L 01 Manger, John 140
19 Nov 2013 B 140 Manger, John 10 Carter, Andy 105
14 Nov 2013 B 111 Winterton, Paul 01 Manger, John 140
15 Oct 2013 B 122 Johnson, Cyril ½½ Manger, John 140
08 Oct 2013 W 140 Manger, John 10 Radesk, Brian 113
01 Oct 2013 W 140 Manger, John ½½ Busby, Michael 137
10 Sep 2013 W 127 Suchak, Parin ½½ Manger, John 143
10 Sep 2013 B 127 Suchak, Parin 10 Manger, John 143
30 Jul 2013 B 139 Manger, John 01 Wallace, Robert 136
16 Jul 2013 W 95 Martin, Maurice 01 Manger, John 143
16 Jul 2013 B 95 Martin, Maurice 01 Manger, John 143
18 Jun 2013 W 143 Manger, John 01 Harlow, Phil 145
18 Jun 2013 B 143 Manger, John 01 Harlow, Phil 145
13 Jun 2013 B 162 Gibbs, Peter 01 Manger, John 139
23 May 2013 W 128 Rayner, John ½½ Manger, John 143
23 May 2013 B 128 Rayner, John 01 Manger, John 143
21 May 2013 W 139 Manger, John 01 Cohen, Gerry 173
23 Apr 2013 B 131 Manger, John 01 Hickman, Peter 113
17 Apr 2013 B 136 Johnson, Andy 10 Manger, John 131
16 Apr 2013 W 131 Manger, John ½½ McEachran, Ewan 118
11 Apr 2013 B 158 Deacon, Paul ½½ Manger, John 131
19 Mar 2013 B 131 Manger, John ½½ Foreman, Brian 149
05 Mar 2013 B 131 Manger, John 10 York, Russell 132
26 Feb 2013 W 131 Manger, John 10 Gist, Elizabeth 130
21 Feb 2013 W 130 Busby, Michael 01 Manger, John 131
07 Feb 2013 B 158 Wylie, Stephen ½½ Manger, John 131
29 Jan 2013 B 113 Stone, Robert ½½ Manger, John 131
24 Jan 2013 W 110 Slater, Brian L ½½ Manger, John 131
17 Jan 2013 W 132 Sim, George 10 Manger, John 131
15 Jan 2013 B 131 Manger, John 10 Eastlake, Charles 120
13 Dec 2012 B 150 Rice, Stephen 10 Manger, John 131
05 Dec 2012 W 71 Keightley, Andrew 01 Manger, John 131
29 Nov 2012 W 119 Armstrong, Victor 10 Manger, John 131
27 Nov 2012 B 131 Manger, John ½½ Macauley, Glenn 140
20 Nov 2012 B 131 Manger, John ½½ Tate, Michael 142
14 Nov 2012 W 152 Adcock, Gregory ½½ Manger, John 131
13 Nov 2012 B 131 Manger, John 01 Gibson, Paul 143
08 Nov 2012 B 106 Williams, Richard 01 Manger, John 131
06 Nov 2012 B 131 Manger, John 10 Eastlake, Charles 120
30 Oct 2012 B 131 Manger, John 01 Deacon, Paul 158
25 Oct 2012 B 136 Colver, John 01 Manger, John 131
16 Oct 2012 W 131 Manger, John ½½ Johnson, Cyril 133
04 Oct 2012 W 135 Walton, David ½½ Manger, John 131
11 Sep 2012 W 130 Manger, John 01 Deacon, Paul 150
11 Sep 2012 B 130 Manger, John 10 Deacon, Paul 150
21 Aug 2012 W 130 Manger, John 10 Evans, Roy 145
21 Aug 2012 B 130 Manger, John 10 Evans, Roy 145
20 Jun 2012 W 130 Cope, Shaun 10 Manger, John 130
20 Jun 2012 B 130 Cope, Shaun ½½ Manger, John 130
12 Jun 2012 W 130 Manger, John 01 Tate, Michael 152
12 Jun 2012 B 130 Manger, John 01 Tate, Michael 152
15 May 2012 W 130 Manger, John 10 Townsend, Ray 130
15 May 2012 B 130 Manger, John 10 Townsend, Ray 130
29 Mar 2012 W 130 Newham, Jon 01 Manger, John 119
14 Mar 2012 B 76 Keightley, Andrew 01 Manger, John 119
13 Mar 2012 B 119 Manger, John 10 Williams, Richard 105
06 Mar 2012 B 119 Manger, John 10 Pettitt, David 130
01 Mar 2012 B 142 Pike, Andrew 10 Manger, John 119
28 Feb 2012 B 119 Manger, John ½½ Winterton, Paul 113
23 Feb 2012 B 156 Deacon, Paul ½½ Manger, John 119
07 Feb 2012 B 119 Manger, John 01 Thomson, John 134
17 Jan 2012 B 113 Stone, Robert 10 Manger, John 119
14 Dec 2011 B 80 Cragg, Oliver 01 Manger, John 119
13 Dec 2011 B 119 Manger, John ½½ Radesk, Brian 113
06 Dec 2011 B 119 Manger, John 01 Slater, Brian L 123
30 Nov 2011 B 80 Kularatnam, Ahalya 01 Manger, John 119
22 Nov 2011 W 119 Manger, John 10 Closs, Guy 118
10 Nov 2011 B 123 Slater, Brian L 10 Manger, John 119
01 Nov 2011 B 119 Manger, John 10 Gist, Elizabeth 124
27 Oct 2011 W 170 Nwachukwu, Chino 10 Manger, John 119
13 Oct 2011 B 112 Clay, Terry 01 Manger, John 119
06 Oct 2011 B 137 Hayden, Lawrence 10 Manger, John 119
04 Oct 2011 B 119 Manger, John 10 Smith, Peter 96
08 Sep 2011 W 119 Collins, RF (Bob) 10 Manger, John 122
08 Sep 2011 B 119 Collins, RF (Bob) ½½ Manger, John 122
16 Aug 2011 W 122 Manger, John 10 Hollingworth, Stuart 107
16 Aug 2011 B 122 Manger, John 10 Hollingworth, Stuart 107
09 Aug 2011 W 122 Manger, John ½½ Wells, Jeremy 136
09 Aug 2011 B 122 Manger, John 10 Wells, Jeremy 136
02 Aug 2011 W 122 Manger, John 10 Smith, Jason 126
02 Aug 2011 B 122 Manger, John 10 Smith, Jason 126
28 Jun 2011 B 135 Pourmozafari, Ben 01 Manger, John 122
21 Jun 2011 W 109 Gist, Elizabeth 01 Manger, John 122
21 Jun 2011 B 109 Gist, Elizabeth 01 Manger, John 122
24 May 2011 B 122 Manger, John ½½ Bennett, Kevin 129
19 Apr 2011 W 122 Manger, John ½½ Hollingworth, Stuart 107
14 Apr 2011 B 124 Townsend, Ray 01 Manger, John 122
08 Mar 2011 W 122 Manger, John ½½ Toon, Roy 110
23 Feb 2011 B 128 Cope, Shaun 01 Manger, John 122
22 Feb 2011 B 122 Manger, John 01 Gurney, Roy 129
01 Feb 2011 B 122 Manger, John 01 Townsend, Ray 124
18 Jan 2011 W 122 Manger, John 10 Williams, Richard 111
07 Dec 2010 W 122 Manger, John ½½ Hammond, Grant 111
16 Nov 2010 B 104 Read, Barry 01 Manger, John 122
10 Nov 2010 W 110 Toon, Roy ½½ Manger, John 122
07 Oct 2010 B 78 Roberts, Neil 10 Manger, John 122

Note: The actual over-the-board result of each game is displayed here, ignoring any penalties applied.  Board defaults are not shown.